Kya Asangni Jivao Me Manka Samvad Hai

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First page of Kya Asangni Jivao Me Manka Samvad Hai

Summary

Here is a comprehensive summary of the Jain text "Kya Asangni Jivao me Manka Samvad Hai" by Bansidhar Pandit, based on the provided pages:

Central Question: The core of this text is a debate and exploration of whether "asamjñī" (insentient) beings have a mind (manas), particularly in light of the Jain acceptance of mati (sensory knowledge) and śruta (scriptural/learned knowledge) in these beings.

Dr. Hiralal Jain's Argument:

  • Dr. Hiralal Jain proposes that if even asamjñī beings (e.g., one-sensed to four-sensed creatures, and even some five-sensed ones) possess mati and śruta knowledge according to Jain scriptures, then they must possess a mind.
  • This is because both mati and śruta knowledge are understood to be impossible without the assistance of the mind.
  • He reinterprets the term "amanaska" (mindless) not as "without mind" but as "having a slight or partial mind" (īṣat man vālā).

Bansidhar Pandit's Counter-Argument and Exploration: Bansidhar Pandit acknowledges Dr. Jain's point but finds the implications challenging and the traditional interpretation of asamjñī beings as truly mindless to be more straightforward. He then delves into a detailed analysis of knowledge and the mind's role.

Key Concepts and Pandit's Reasoning:

  1. Nature of Knowledge:

    • Knowledge (jñāna) arises in two ways:
      • Svāpekṣa (Self-dependent): Knowledge that arises independently, like avadhi, manahparyaya, and keval (omniscience).
      • Parāpekṣa (Dependent): Knowledge that depends on something else for its origin. Mati and śruta are classified as parāpekṣa.
  2. Role of the Mind in Mati and Śruta:

    • The text heavily emphasizes that mati knowledge, starting from avagraha (perception) to anumāna (inference), requires the mind's support.
    • Śruta knowledge arises from mati knowledge, specifically from anumāna (inference), as supported by the scriptural statement "Mati-pūrvaṃ śrutam" (Śruta follows Mati).
    • This strong connection between mind and these two types of knowledge is the crux of Pandit's initial doubt about how asamjñī beings could have śruta without a mind.
  3. Traditional Digambara View and Pandit's Dissatisfaction:

    • The prevailing Digambara tradition defines sañjñī (sentient) beings as those with a mind and asamjñī as those without.
    • To reconcile the acceptance of śruta knowledge in asamjñī beings with the absence of mind, many Digambara scholars suggest that this śruta is in the form of labdhi (potential or acquired capability) rather than upayoga (actual utilization). They argue that upayoga-rūpa śruta requires a mind.
    • Pandit finds this distinction unsatisfying and still struggles with the concept of śruta existing as a potential without any mental faculty, even a minimal one.
  4. Śvetāmbara Perspective:

    • Pandit refers to the Śvetāmbara text Viśeṣāvaśyaka Bhāṣya, which, according to Dr. Jain, accepts the existence of a mind in a graded manner even for one-sensed beings. However, Pandit notes that this doesn't fully resolve his issue, as accepting "slight mind" for upayoga-rūpa śruta is not significantly different from the labdhi-rūpa śruta argument.
  5. Detailed Breakdown of Mati Knowledge Components:

    • The text meticulously explains the sequential nature and causal relationships within mati knowledge:
      • Dharaṇā (Retention) is the final stage of mati.
      • Tarka (Reasoning) leads to anumāna.
      • Pratyabhijñāna (Recognition) leads to tarka.
      • Smṛti (Memory) leads to pratyabhijñāna.
      • Dhāraṇā (Retention) leads to smṛti.
    • All these (anumāna, tarka, pratyabhijñāna, smṛti, dhāraṇā) are types of mati knowledge.
    • The scriptural statement "Matiḥ smṛtiḥ saṅjñā cintā abhinibodhaḥ" confirms this classification.
  6. Direct vs. Indirect Knowledge (Prakṣa vs. Parokṣa):

    • A crucial distinction is made between direct and indirect knowledge based on the cause of knowledge:
      • Direct (Viśada) Knowledge: Arises from the darśana (direct perception/manifestation) of the object. Examples include avadhi, manahparyaya, keval, and sensory knowledge (prakāśa) from the five senses and mind. These are characterized by clarity.
      • Indirect (Aviśada) Knowledge: Arises from the jñāna (conceptual understanding) of the object, not direct darśana. Examples include smṛti, pratyabhijñāna, tarka, anumāna, and śruta. These lack the clarity of direct knowledge.
    • Darśana and Jñana are Co-present: The statement "Darśana-pūrvaṃ jñānam" (Knowledge preceded by Darśana) implies causality, not succession. Both darśana-upayoga and jñāna-upayoga occur simultaneously in embodied souls (*chadmast*).
  7. Nature of Sensory Perception (Aindriyika):

    • Sensory perception leading to direct knowledge (dharaṇā-rūpa) can manifest in several ways:
      • Directly as dharaṇā.
      • Following avagraha.
      • Following a doubtful avagraha resolved by means.
      • Following a doubtful avagraha with subsequent avāya and then dharaṇā.
      • Following a doubtful avagraha with subsequent īhā and then dharaṇā.
      • Following īhā, then avāya, and finally dharaṇā.
    • In all these scenarios, the darśana of the object is essential. When darśana ceases, so does the direct perception.
  8. Pandit's Proposed Resolution (Simplified Knowledge for Asamjñī):

    • Pandit proposes a simpler model for asamjñī beings: they possess only the avagraha-rūpa (perceptual stage) of direct knowledge.
    • They do not possess īhā, avāya, dharaṇā, or any of the indirect (parokṣa) types of knowledge like smṛti, pratyabhijñāna, tarka, anumāna, and śruta.
    • If this simplified model is accepted, then the need to posit even a slight mind in asamjñī beings disappears.
    • This interpretation also aligns better with the traditional definitions of sañjñī and asamjñī based on the presence or absence of a mind.
  9. Revisiting Śruta Knowledge in Asamjñī:

    • The question then arises: if asamjñī beings lack śruta in the philosophical sense (as understood in dravyanuyoga and requiring a mind), then how can their observed behaviors (seeking pleasure, avoiding pain) be explained?
    • Pandit's answer is that these behaviors are driven by self-awareness (svasaṃvedana) of knowledge, which is inherent in all knowledge.
    • This self-awareness is akin to the self-luminosity of light. It doesn't require another mind.
    • He suggests that perhaps, in the karaṇānuayoga (practical/ritualistic) tradition, this svasaṃvedana itself is referred to as śruta. This is because svasaṃvedana is a form of knowing something else (the primary knowledge itself), fitting the definition of śruta as "knowing one thing from another."
    • This svasaṃvedana is not an object of the senses, which aligns with the scriptural understanding of śruta being anindriya (not pertaining to senses), if anindriya is interpreted as "knowledge."
  10. Critique of "Amanaska" as "Slight Mind":

    • Pandit finds Dr. Jain's interpretation of "amanaska" as "having a slight mind" problematic.
    • He argues that the prefix "a-" in "amanaska" naturally signifies absence, just as "anindriya" means without senses.
    • Trying to equate "amanaska" with "īṣat man vālā" creates an awkward asymmetry with "samanaska" (having a mind). If "amanaska" means "slight mind," then "samanaska" would have to mean "complete mind," which he considers an overcomplicated interpretation. The natural meaning of "samanaska" is simply "with a mind."

Conclusion: Bansidhar Pandit, while acknowledging the complexities raised by Dr. Hiralal Jain, leans towards a more stringent interpretation that asamjñī beings likely possess only the most basic perceptual knowledge (avagraha). He suggests that their essential behaviors can be explained by self-awareness of knowledge rather than a separate śruta knowledge requiring a mind. He advocates for a clear distinction between sensory perception (darśana) and conceptual understanding (jñāna), and argues against reinterpreting "amanaska" to mean "having a slight mind" due to logical inconsistencies. The text highlights the nuanced discussions within Jain philosophy regarding the nature of consciousness, knowledge, and the mind across different categories of beings.